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Uwe Siemon-Netto

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Erich Heidenreich, DDS

How about "coach" for your new title?

Coach Siemon-Netto. I think you automatically get to wear a whistle if you have that title. Cool!

That one gets a lot of use at SAM's Club. I think the "coaches" direct the "associates."

But, seriously, weren't you hired to "coach" all of us laity on how to apply the Lutheran doctrine of vocation to "the game" of our lives?

Erich (the "filling" station attendant) Heidenreich, DDS

Mike Perkins

I'll never forget the lady who's last name was Gay. The first time she introduced herself to me, she apologized for her name. After that, I resumed my use of the word gay in everyday conversation to describe how I was feeling.

James

Hmmm. In the dialect known as American Southern English, a formal term of address and title for an adult female has been pronounced "Miz" for at least a century; that was true fifty years ago, anyways, when I was growing up. For more formal occasions, one might use "Mizziz" or "Missis" for a married woman; I recollect older folk would even betimes use "Mistress". I think it rather nice that the rest of the country has adopted this Southernism.

I'm a gent who prefers and mainly uses the generic "he" rather than "he or she" most of the time; I even prefer 'steward' to 'flight attendant'. I also find much politically correct language rather repelling at worst, affected at best.
Yet, when reading of the encounter on the aircraft, I couldn't help but hope that the 'steward' or 'flight attendant' or 'sty-ward' or 'servant-of-those-who-fly' was already a Christian strong in his faith. Or, if he was a weak Christian or a non-Christian, I hope that he remained unaware that the gent criticizing his preference of title was a Christian--especially one with a vocation to teach future pastors. Otherwise, Satan would have an opportunity to steer him away from the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

There was no indication that the man in question was dissatisfied with his vocation, only that he had a preference for a certain title. I'm not sure which of the 613 commandments prohibits airline 'stewards' from using the title 'flight attendant', but it doesn't appear that the Law was well proclaimed in the encounter. Certainly the Gospel was not present.

Every quotidian encounter does not have to result in sharing the Gospel. But no encounter should intentionally put up stumbling blocks to the Spirit's work. As a person who has fallen short of God's commands in this regard, I know that I am also criticizing my self when I write this. Yes, there are even times whatever one says to benefit one person can be used to harm another. Thanks be to God for His love and forgiveness.

Rebochan

That's funny...I've been on more than a few flights and just saying "HEY! YOU!" has sufficed quote fine for getting service.

But I highly doubt the exchange in the opening took place from any flight attendant (oh, I'm sorry, steward) that actually expected to keep their job.

Seriously, this "war" against political correctness has got to stop. Don't we have more important things to worry about as far as religion goes beyond harping on whether people should change their job titles to fit your preconceptions?

Lainie

Mr. Siemon-Netto, perhaps the gentleman in your anecdote found you, not "a backward klutz," but a discourteous, pompous pedant.

Dr. Uwe Siemon-Netto

Phew, and I feared I might be accused of sexism, male chauvinism, misogyny, homophobia, and societal retardation. Thanks for giving me a break, Lainie!

Mathew

Mr. Siemen-Netto,
I applaud your courageous statement of fact when it comes to the fundementals of lay-vocation. I don't think it is taught nearly in-depth as it should be. (The honor God bestows on our work) Which is clearly the main intent of your article. I would find it hard to proclaim my gaity in front of my two homosexual practicing aunts. But if someone doesn't say it, then the lost may just stay that way, lost. Regards

fwsonnek

"I suppose the destruction of the English language began when feminist ideologues fabricated the unpronounceable title, Ms. This occurred at about the same time when men of a certain sexual preferences hijacked the beautiful vocable “gay,” which still makes me angry."

Oh my! people are still getting knotted up in their underwear over this one?

Using THIS logic of course you are consistent and you STILL refer NOT to blacks or african-americans but rather you consistently refer to them as "Negros" or "Colored Folk" ????

This does not need to be a big issues really. I am sure you can find other equally useful words to describe what you and your wife do over a good bottle of wine. you can still use the word gay in private without confusing each other I hope.

plenty of words change over time to mean different things

life before the computer:

Memory was something you lost with old age

an application was for employment

a program was a tv show

a cursor was a person who used profanity

a keyboard was a piano

A web was a spider's home

A virus was a flu

A cd was a bank account

A hard drive was a long trip home

A mouse pad was a mouses home

And if you had a 3 1/2 inch floppy, you just hoped no-one ever found out...

even more:

SPAM was a tinned cold meat spread.

A site was where you built a house.

A link was part of a chain.

Home was where the family lived.

Click was the noise you could make with your fingers.

Return was a type of bus fare.

Search was what you did when you lost your keys or watch.

so all of these words changed but none of you would say anything about them being "high jacked" by computer companies or Bill Gates nor would any of you say that these words should only be used for their original meaning.

gay Look up gay at Dictionary.com
1178, "full of joy or mirth," from O.Fr. gai "gay, merry," perhaps from Frank. *gahi (cf. O.H.G. wahi "pretty"). Meaning "brilliant, showy" is from c.1300. OED gives 1951 as earliest date for slang meaning "homosexual" (adj.), but this is certainly too late; gey cat "homosexual boy" is attested in N. Erskine's 1933 dictionary of "Underworld & Prison Slang;" the term gey cat (gey is a Scot. variant of gay) was used as far back as 1893 in Amer.Eng. for "young hobo," one who is new on the road and usually in the company of an older tramp, with catamite connotations. But Josiah Flynt ["Tramping With Tramps," 1905] defines gay cat as, "An amateur tramp who works when his begging courage fails him." Gey cats also were said to be tramps who offered sexual services to women. The "Dictionary of American Slang" reports that gay (adj.) was used by homosexuals, among themselves, in this sense since at least 1920. Rawson ["Wicked Words"] notes a male prostitute using gay in reference to male homosexuals (but also to female prostitutes) in London's notorious Cleveland Street Scandal of 1889. Ayto ["20th Century Words"] calls attention to the ambiguous use of the word in the 1868 song "The Gay Young Clerk in the Dry Goods Store," by U.S. female impersonator Will S. Hays. The word gay in the 1890s had an overall tinge of promiscuity -- a gay house was a brothel. The suggestion of immorality in the word can be traced back to 1637. Gay as a noun meaning "a (usually male) homosexual" is attested from 1971.

Brian

I can't help but notice how many people seemed to have missed the point of the article while tripping over quibbles.

Joel

Deformation of the language is brother to dumbing-down of the liturgy.

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